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My questions

Postby reiva on Wed Jun 23, 2010 3:45 pm

Hi. I've read through the instruction manual and installation guide. I am left with a few questions:

1. Will the auto-window-closing feature work on cars for which the ignition needs to be in the "ON" position in order for the windows to operate (e.g., Subaru Impreza)?

2. If you are driving and communication with the access key is lost (due to external interference or whatever) will the engine stop?

3. Does the OEM key fob retain full lock/unlock functionality?

4. To start/stop the engine with push-button control, the manual says "press and hold" the push-button. Why do you have to hold? For how long? Is the starter motor only engaged while the button is being held?

5. On cars that have a separate door lock/unlock "CHIRP" sound (e.g., Subaru Impreza), can the system use that chirp or must it use the horn?

6. If it must use the horn, what is the duration (in milliseconds) of each horn actuation? Configurable?

7. If you don't connect the brake input (to prevent doors from being locked when driving away) does the "emergency system passive bypass function" still work?

8. Am I reading correctly that if I want the metal key to retain functionality then I MUST mechanically disable the steering column lock?

9. Can I buy extra keys with the system? Say, four total instead of two.

10. Is there any disadvantage to the push-button start (vs key cap), other than cost and having to drill into your instrument panel?

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Re: My questions

Postby advanc29 on Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:29 am

reiva wrote:1. Will the auto-window-closing feature work on cars for which the ignition needs to be in the "ON" position in order for the windows to operate (e.g., Subaru Impreza)?

Connect the window closer directly to each of the window motor so it does not require vehicle to be in the "ON" position to work. You just need to supply power to the window closer module that's all.

reiva wrote:2. If you are driving and communication with the access key is lost (due to external interference or whatever) will the engine stop?

This sytem will look for access key only when the vehicle is in "OFF" state. Once the vehicle is in "ACC" or "ON" state, communication with the access key will not be needed and operation of the vehicle is not effected by the access key unitl the vehicle is turned off.

reiva wrote:3. Does the OEM key fob retain full lock/unlock functionality?

OEM remote system is not effected by this system, your OEM key fob will continue to function.

reiva wrote:4. To start/stop the engine with push-button control, the manual says "press and hold" the push-button. Why do you have to hold? For how long? Is the starter motor only engaged while the button is being held?

When install the Push-Start system you have a choice to install with or wihtout the TACH option. When using push-start without the TACH input you have to press and hold the button until the engine starts just like how you would with a metal key to crank the engine until it starts. However with TACH input connected, you can press and release the button right away and engine will crank on it's own until it reaches programmed idle RPM.

reiva wrote:5. On cars that have a separate door lock/unlock "CHIRP" sound (e.g., Subaru Impreza), can the system use that chirp or must it use the horn?

Outputs for flahers and horn are there, how and what they are connected to is up to you to decide.

reiva wrote:6. If it must use the horn, what is the duration (in milliseconds) of each horn actuation? Configurable?

See jumper setting for horn/siren on the installation guide. 1000ms 12v pulse/delay for horn and 12v full-time high if you select the siren option.

reiva wrote:7. If you don't connect the brake input (to prevent doors from being locked when driving away) does the "emergency system passive bypass function" still work?

Yes, the "emergency system passive bypass function" now works automatically when your vehicle in alarm state (as in alarm is going off). Just wave the key 1 to 2 inches away from the antenna, no need to depress the brake.

reiva wrote:8. Am I reading correctly that if I want the metal key to retain functionality then I MUST mechanically disable the steering column lock?

No, depending how you wired your ignition wirings. You can retain the metal key functions and you just need to make sure you can take out the dummy key that's already in the key hole's ACC position (dummy key is used to disable the steering column without mechanically modifying the steering lock mechanism).

reiva wrote:9. Can I buy extra keys with the system? Say, four total instead of two.

Yes you may, it comes in pair and they are $79 per set. However you can only use up to 2 access keys at time, per controller. Acess key programming will be provided upon order.

reiva wrote:10. Is there any disadvantage to the push-button start (vs key cap), other than cost and having to drill into your instrument panel?

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Re: My questions

Postby reiva on Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:32 pm

Thanks for the quick responses. They all look good, except #6: That 1000 ms actuation isn't going to blare the horn for 1 s, is it? That'll scare the bejesus out of everyone (including me). Or is it 1 s of pulsing the horn? If so, how long is a pulse?

Two more questions ... is the system CSA, UL, ULC or CE certified (or at least compliant)? Just want to be sure my car isn't going to erupt in a ball of flames, no offense ;)

And, do you know of anyone who's done successful knob-start Impreza installations? I would prefer to have it done by someone who's already done it before. I am more than willing to drive out to London if necessary.

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Re: My questions

Postby advanc29 on Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:18 am

i c, 1000ms is the period, 100ms on, 900ms off, hope this helps ;)

Our devices are CE certified FCC compliant and has been and still is vigorously tested. With all input power fused and using less than 20mA RMS it's an efficient, safe and lower power device. Every device goes out the door is tested and functionally verified, but again there is no way to foolproof everything, especially when it comes to custom integration into a specific vehicle. Certified installers are recommended for installing this device.

While we are not aware of any specific install on Impreza but it can be easily accomplished with the aid of a data bypass device. We do not support installation ourselves but we can refer you to a local installer in London that can, and we can send a representative there to provide support for the installation if needed.

Please PM us at info@advancedkeys.com for future arrangement.

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Re: My questions

Postby reiva on Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:16 pm

That's all great news. Thanks!
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Re: My questions

Postby reiva on Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:52 pm

A few more questions while I wait for my car ...

1. Can I install this system on two cars (my wife's and mine) and use the same access card for both cars? (6 mm is way too thick to have two of them in my wallet)

2. Any chance of making the card thinner? Or in a waterproof key fob format (or like a USB key) for a keychain (would be best for surfer situation)?

3. If I did have to use two completely separate systems for the two cars, would they interfere with each other in a situation where the keys were in one wallet and the cars were parked right beside each other?

4. If I get the option that auto closes your windows and sunroof, and then one day I WANT to leave the sunroof open because it's super hot with no chance of rain, can I?

5. What's the best way to buy this stuff when I'm ready, do I order the system from you, and order the data bypass device from the idatalink website, and then take everything to an installer?

5. You said up above, "However you can only use up to 2 access keys at time, per controller," but on the product web page it says "Get a pair of additional Access Keys or replacing current ones." So what use is an additional set then? (or should that "or" be a "for")

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Re: My questions

Postby advanc29 on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:44 am

reiva wrote:1. Can I install this system on two cars (my wife's and mine) and use the same access card for both cars? (6 mm is way too thick to have two of them in my wallet)

Yes you can, each unit can be programmed with one pair of keys. You can do it yourself or we can pre-program both units for you if you request it at the purchase.
reiva wrote:2. Any chance of making the card thinner? Or in a waterproof key fob format (or like a USB key) for a keychain (would be best for surfer situation)?

We are looking into that right now. Again, there is a plan to further size reduction but we not sure about waterproofing as this will definitely increse the size of the remote. It's difficult to satisfy both at the same time.
reiva wrote:3. If I did have to use two completely separate systems for the two cars, would they interfere with each other in a situation where the keys were in one wallet and the cars were parked right beside each other?

No, chances are 1 in millions that it will.
reiva wrote:4. If I get the option that auto closes your windows and sunroof, and then one day I WANT to leave the sunroof open because it's super hot with no chance of rain, can I?

That's possible but not practical: leave the key outside the range and manually enter the car with key or OEM remote and open any window you need and manually lock it. Again we are looking into remote with buttons that can help out in this case.
reiva wrote:5. What's the best way to buy this stuff when I'm ready, do I order the system from you, and order the data bypass device from the idatalink website, and then take everything to an installer?

Yes that's sounds about right.
reiva wrote:5. You said up above, "However you can only use up to 2 access keys at time, per controller," but on the product web page it says "Get a pair of additional Access Keys or replacing current ones." So what use is an additional set then? (or should that "or" be a "for")

Some customer prefer to have a set of backup remote in case if they ever need it. you may order it when you need it as well.
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